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	<description>On the road of Second Life®, there are passengers and there are drivers.  Erbo Evans has a Chrysler that's as big as a whale, and it's about to set sail...</description>
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		<title>By: Birthday Bust &#171; Evans Avenue Exit</title>
		<link>http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2008/06/01/sign-sign-everywhere-a-sign/#comment-2931</link>
		<dc:creator>Birthday Bust &#171; Evans Avenue Exit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rules of the&#160;Road        Sign, Sign, Everywhere A&#160;Sign [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Shaunny</title>
		<link>http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2008/06/01/sign-sign-everywhere-a-sign/#comment-2923</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erbo,
interseting that you and Prok, have  both hit the nail on the head so it seems. I have  yet to undestand  why  there reasons behind the whole&quot;PG area-Please refrain fron the  foul language- tank you and have a  great  Second life&quot; I  mean yes i do have  young  kids  in real life  but  i mean what is  LL trying to do  here? Make it to  where  NO one  wants to pay for  their  time and  services ??? 
Man, I remember  hearing of SL wayyyyyy back in the  days i was in  palace(which is  free unless you have a server  slot  there.) i know  many  people from that program that came to SL for  other reasons...... 
Let&#039;s  wait and see what LL decides  on this 5th  Birthday  thing and  good  job on calling M out for the  &quot;truth of  the Policy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erbo,<br />
interseting that you and Prok, have  both hit the nail on the head so it seems. I have  yet to undestand  why  there reasons behind the whole&#8221;PG area-Please refrain fron the  foul language- tank you and have a  great  Second life&#8221; I  mean yes i do have  young  kids  in real life  but  i mean what is  LL trying to do  here? Make it to  where  NO one  wants to pay for  their  time and  services ???<br />
Man, I remember  hearing of SL wayyyyyy back in the  days i was in  palace(which is  free unless you have a server  slot  there.) i know  many  people from that program that came to SL for  other reasons&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Let&#8217;s  wait and see what LL decides  on this 5th  Birthday  thing and  good  job on calling M out for the  &#8220;truth of  the Policy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Elsbeth Clary</title>
		<link>http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2008/06/01/sign-sign-everywhere-a-sign/#comment-2921</link>
		<dc:creator>Elsbeth Clary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing some don&#039;t seem to understand is that Linden Labs has to be like Ceasar&#039;s wife, above reproach. As Massively says in his blog, they have to comply with all laws and cannot have even have the appearance of supporting things that appear wrong. Unfortunately some seem to think child avatar=child porn. If SL is going to stay around, they have to avoid that appearance of support. If this means that the organizations that are not being allowed to build on the sponsored plots have to build on their own and advertise, so be it. I would rather have that than have SL restricted to the US or even be gone altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing some don&#8217;t seem to understand is that Linden Labs has to be like Ceasar&#8217;s wife, above reproach. As Massively says in his blog, they have to comply with all laws and cannot have even have the appearance of supporting things that appear wrong. Unfortunately some seem to think child avatar=child porn. If SL is going to stay around, they have to avoid that appearance of support. If this means that the organizations that are not being allowed to build on the sponsored plots have to build on their own and advertise, so be it. I would rather have that than have SL restricted to the US or even be gone altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk Talamasca</title>
		<link>http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2008/06/01/sign-sign-everywhere-a-sign/#comment-2920</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Talamasca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the idea of celebrating special events like this but I never liked them to be centralized on a few regions. It turns out to be a lagfest that is highly unenjoyable if you happen to attend. 

Scripted games and other objects placed at the event for entertainment become almost useless and the rest of the time the conversation in local chat is nothing more than people complaining about the lag.

We may have a lot more fun broadcasting some things that the Lindens plan over video that day and have builds and celebrations gridwide.

Generally Philip speaks and of course, we all want to be there for that, so we crowd into the regions and lag them to death so that no stream can bear the weight of it all. 

Why not have the party all over the grid and allow people to build what they want? Then cut the Lindens loose on the grid handing out prizes and presents at random. Broadcast their current location via video or audio feed. Free tier for a month to that guy, a limited edition collectible creation to that lady, etc, etc.. Portable dunking booths here and there that the Lindens just drop so you can have a go at them. And not just the Lindens but many well-known residents could also be up for a dunk. Soak all Charter Members for instance. Take the party to the welcome and help areas, give the new residents some excitement and laughter. Make it fun instead of a chore that has a lot of great people that are all trying to do their best meet up with difficulty. There is no joy in that. We are supposed to be celebrating, not clawing and scratching over who did this or that and what can or cannot be done. The celebration is for EVERYONE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the idea of celebrating special events like this but I never liked them to be centralized on a few regions. It turns out to be a lagfest that is highly unenjoyable if you happen to attend. </p>
<p>Scripted games and other objects placed at the event for entertainment become almost useless and the rest of the time the conversation in local chat is nothing more than people complaining about the lag.</p>
<p>We may have a lot more fun broadcasting some things that the Lindens plan over video that day and have builds and celebrations gridwide.</p>
<p>Generally Philip speaks and of course, we all want to be there for that, so we crowd into the regions and lag them to death so that no stream can bear the weight of it all. </p>
<p>Why not have the party all over the grid and allow people to build what they want? Then cut the Lindens loose on the grid handing out prizes and presents at random. Broadcast their current location via video or audio feed. Free tier for a month to that guy, a limited edition collectible creation to that lady, etc, etc.. Portable dunking booths here and there that the Lindens just drop so you can have a go at them. And not just the Lindens but many well-known residents could also be up for a dunk. Soak all Charter Members for instance. Take the party to the welcome and help areas, give the new residents some excitement and laughter. Make it fun instead of a chore that has a lot of great people that are all trying to do their best meet up with difficulty. There is no joy in that. We are supposed to be celebrating, not clawing and scratching over who did this or that and what can or cannot be done. The celebration is for EVERYONE.</p>
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		<title>By: Erbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 06:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure I remember seeing the SL Kids&#039; playground at least at the 3rd Birthday Celebration...it was over on the west side of the four &quot;main&quot; sims, near the southwest corner.  I don&#039;t know if I have any proof, though; perhaps some old photos I uploaded to EMinds back in the day.

At any rate, maybe &quot;let them walk&quot; &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; the best advice.  Then, when the outside folks LL is trying to impress start wondering why no one&#039;s participating in or even attending their &quot;Official Birthday Celebration,&quot; somebody at LL is gonna have some &#039;splainin&#039; to do.

But we don&#039;t even have much to go on from LL yet, just one feeble attempt at explanation by Everett.  That&#039;s why I called on M to bring forth LL&#039;s official policy here; I don&#039;t want us to be foisted off on some PR flack, I want the unvarnished Word from On High.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure I remember seeing the SL Kids&#8217; playground at least at the 3rd Birthday Celebration&#8230;it was over on the west side of the four &#8220;main&#8221; sims, near the southwest corner.  I don&#8217;t know if I have any proof, though; perhaps some old photos I uploaded to EMinds back in the day.</p>
<p>At any rate, maybe &#8220;let them walk&#8221; <i>is</i> the best advice.  Then, when the outside folks LL is trying to impress start wondering why no one&#8217;s participating in or even attending their &#8220;Official Birthday Celebration,&#8221; somebody at LL is gonna have some &#8217;splainin&#8217; to do.</p>
<p>But we don&#8217;t even have much to go on from LL yet, just one feeble attempt at explanation by Everett.  That&#8217;s why I called on M to bring forth LL&#8217;s official policy here; I don&#8217;t want us to be foisted off on some PR flack, I want the unvarnished Word from On High.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. We&#039;re having only the word of the creepy kid contingent that they were welcomed in past ceremonies. I don&#039;t recall them at all. A distinction is being made between any group being welcome to attend, and only certain groups getting to do the builds. 

2. The building process for the SLB has always been FIC&#039;ed up the wazoo. The idea that it was ever diverse and inclusive is a fiction that has been invented as a glorification of a past to reference in a perceived slight and &quot;discrimination&quot; this year -- but has no grounding in actual historical truth.

3. Let them walk. Time to grow up. You want &quot;your world/your imagination?&quot; Make it. See how many people show up. Only a minority will be interested in BDSM, Gor, &quot;ageplay&quot; or even its sanitzed yet still creepy &quot;safe&quot; version of kiddie avatars. 

4. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessarily corporate and sanitized just because it leaves out violence, slavery, and creepiness -- my God, we&#039;re to be so open-minded our brains fall out when it comes to the public commons?! But...what did you expect, anyway? This is the same company that brought you Showcase which contains their PG friends, many of them corporate and sanitized. Shrugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. We&#8217;re having only the word of the creepy kid contingent that they were welcomed in past ceremonies. I don&#8217;t recall them at all. A distinction is being made between any group being welcome to attend, and only certain groups getting to do the builds. </p>
<p>2. The building process for the SLB has always been FIC&#8217;ed up the wazoo. The idea that it was ever diverse and inclusive is a fiction that has been invented as a glorification of a past to reference in a perceived slight and &#8220;discrimination&#8221; this year &#8212; but has no grounding in actual historical truth.</p>
<p>3. Let them walk. Time to grow up. You want &#8220;your world/your imagination?&#8221; Make it. See how many people show up. Only a minority will be interested in BDSM, Gor, &#8220;ageplay&#8221; or even its sanitzed yet still creepy &#8220;safe&#8221; version of kiddie avatars. </p>
<p>4. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessarily corporate and sanitized just because it leaves out violence, slavery, and creepiness &#8212; my God, we&#8217;re to be so open-minded our brains fall out when it comes to the public commons?! But&#8230;what did you expect, anyway? This is the same company that brought you Showcase which contains their PG friends, many of them corporate and sanitized. Shrugs.</p>
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