Comments on: The Liberals And The Linden Prize http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/the-liberals-and-the-linden-prize/ On the road of Second Life®, there are passengers and there are drivers. Erbo Evans has a Chrysler that's as big as a whale, and it's about to set sail... Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:19:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Westley http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/the-liberals-and-the-linden-prize/#comment-3051 Westley Sat, 30 May 2009 07:58:37 +0000 http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/?p=270#comment-3051 You are still missing the point. Our units are not static as you may be imagining. They are live, they allow live interaction between students their peers and their teachers. If they were live then others would be able to interact with them and attempt to solicit information from them that may or may not be appropriate. We are a collaboration of schools. Each school has it's own way of dealing with issues such as Parent interaction. I would not assume that one size fitted all here and so leave it to each school to find the way forward. Many are struggling just to step into these new ways of learning. To expose their students to the world may seem wonderfully Utopian but is entirely unrealistic. I would rather bring them along and have them contribute to the journey rather than alienate them and force a viewpoint on them. We all decide what to do and how to move forward and have made significant progress that is positive. We share our learning with the world via our blog as best we can. We don't have everything up due to lack of time (to busy doing) that lack of willingness to share. I understand you have you barrow to push, I don't think you need to make your point via unsubstantiated accusations towards others. If you feel otherwise then so be it. I wish you all the best, you have raised some good points. You are still missing the point. Our units are not static as you may be imagining. They are live, they allow live interaction between students their peers and their teachers. If they were live then others would be able to interact with them and attempt to solicit information from them that may or may not be appropriate.

We are a collaboration of schools. Each school has it’s own way of dealing with issues such as Parent interaction. I would not assume that one size fitted all here and so leave it to each school to find the way forward. Many are struggling just to step into these new ways of learning. To expose their students to the world may seem wonderfully Utopian but is entirely unrealistic. I would rather bring them along and have them contribute to the journey rather than alienate them and force a viewpoint on them. We all decide what to do and how to move forward and have made significant progress that is positive. We share our learning with the world via our blog as best we can. We don’t have everything up due to lack of time (to busy doing) that lack of willingness to share.

I understand you have you barrow to push, I don’t think you need to make your point via unsubstantiated accusations towards others. If you feel otherwise then so be it. I wish you all the best, you have raised some good points.

]]> By: Erbo http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/the-liberals-and-the-linden-prize/#comment-3050 Erbo Fri, 29 May 2009 15:49:21 +0000 http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/?p=270#comment-3050 Are *you* an official spokesperson for Skoolaborate, Westley? The address you used to post this comment suggests nothing of the sort. In any event, it seems to me that, if "students personal information" is so intimately bound in with the contents of your lesson plans, you're doing it wrong. Shouldn't it be possible to release this information with authorship anonymized in the case of students? It's possible for concerned citizens to review what their local school districts are teaching, should that not be the case here? And I'm honest about MY biases. Is YOUR organization? Now, to give you your due, something like your service would be EXTREMELY useful for homeschooling parents who needed solid lesson plans for their children, and, in fact, I knew a couple in Texas (both fairly well-known bloggers) who were trying to set up exactly this sort of thing. The difference is that, this being homeschooling, the PARENTS would get to see the material BEFORE exposing it to their children, rather than AFTER it was too late to do anything about it other than pull their kid out of the class in the middle. Are *you* an official spokesperson for Skoolaborate, Westley? The address you used to post this comment suggests nothing of the sort.

In any event, it seems to me that, if “students personal information” is so intimately bound in with the contents of your lesson plans, you’re doing it wrong. Shouldn’t it be possible to release this information with authorship anonymized in the case of students? It’s possible for concerned citizens to review what their local school districts are teaching, should that not be the case here?

And I’m honest about MY biases. Is YOUR organization?

Now, to give you your due, something like your service would be EXTREMELY useful for homeschooling parents who needed solid lesson plans for their children, and, in fact, I knew a couple in Texas (both fairly well-known bloggers) who were trying to set up exactly this sort of thing. The difference is that, this being homeschooling, the PARENTS would get to see the material BEFORE exposing it to their children, rather than AFTER it was too late to do anything about it other than pull their kid out of the class in the middle.

]]> By: Westley http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/the-liberals-and-the-linden-prize/#comment-3049 Westley Fri, 29 May 2009 12:12:04 +0000 http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/?p=270#comment-3049 Your ignorance and bias is quite amazing really, I guess this article shows how journalists can twist stories to anything that suits their purpose. Perhaps you could remove your blinkers and ask why would people do things? For example your suggestion that our units are hiding something because they are not open for all. The reason they are closed is a child protection issue. The units can be developed by teachers or students and have blogging capability. We are ensuring that students personal information is safe and that students can contribute ideas and thoughts in a safe environment. All adults in Skoolaborate have a working with children check which provides the expected level of safety when interacting with adults. If you understood education you would also understand this is something that parents want and that systems demand - a requirement. Parents can sit with students and see the unit if they desire. Your ignorance and bias is quite amazing really, I guess this article shows how journalists can twist stories to anything that suits their purpose. Perhaps you could remove your blinkers and ask why would people do things? For example your suggestion that our units are hiding something because they are not open for all. The reason they are closed is a child protection issue. The units can be developed by teachers or students and have blogging capability. We are ensuring that students personal information is safe and that students can contribute ideas and thoughts in a safe environment. All adults in Skoolaborate have a working with children check which provides the expected level of safety when interacting with adults. If you understood education you would also understand this is something that parents want and that systems demand – a requirement. Parents can sit with students and see the unit if they desire.

]]> By: adricantfarm http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/the-liberals-and-the-linden-prize/#comment-3041 adricantfarm Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:22:30 +0000 http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/?p=270#comment-3041 Good man Proky; I knew I wasn't the only person who had an issue with the dead kids prop. If you message needs that big an assist, it's a little weak. Speaking of props - mad props to Firefox for having a 2nd Amendment theme http://www.adric.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/2aff.jpg Good man Proky;

I knew I wasn’t the only person who had an issue with the dead kids prop. If you message needs that big an assist, it’s a little weak.

Speaking of props – mad props to Firefox for having a 2nd Amendment theme

http://www.adric.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/2aff.jpg

]]> By: Prokofy Neva http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/the-liberals-and-the-linden-prize/#comment-3039 Prokofy Neva Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:53:33 +0000 http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/?p=270#comment-3039 Oh, I condemned the "Palestinian Holocaust Museum" utterly, and repeatedly, for which the tech libs Rita King and Joshua Fouts keep barring me from commenting on their web site breathlessly celebrating Islam, uncritically. Oh, I condemned the “Palestinian Holocaust Museum” utterly, and repeatedly, for which the tech libs Rita King and Joshua Fouts keep barring me from commenting on their web site breathlessly celebrating Islam, uncritically.

]]> By: adricantfarm http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/the-liberals-and-the-linden-prize/#comment-3038 adricantfarm Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:54:13 +0000 http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/?p=270#comment-3038 Very good analysis. Yes, from when he Borked Bork it has been clear he can not be depended on, but you always want to welcome those who stray back when in the case we should of tossed him a while back. He is also pro-choice (or pro-death as we say here in Oklahoma). The last thing I wanted in the army is a platoon mate who I couldn't trust with my back. Very good analysis.

Yes, from when he Borked Bork it has been clear he can not be depended on, but you always want to welcome those who stray back when in the case we should of tossed him a while back.

He is also pro-choice (or pro-death as we say here in Oklahoma).

The last thing I wanted in the army is a platoon mate who I couldn’t trust with my back.

]]> By: Erbo http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/the-liberals-and-the-linden-prize/#comment-3037 Erbo Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:48:01 +0000 http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/?p=270#comment-3037 What? Specter was a flaming RINO; to him I say, "Bye-bye and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Maybe now the people of Pennsylvania will be able to elect a REAL conservative to replace YOUR sorry ass." Plus, now the Dems have no cover whatsoever. Whatever happens from here until they get tossed out of office is on their heads and they can't hide from it. What? Specter was a flaming RINO; to him I say, “Bye-bye and don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Maybe now the people of Pennsylvania will be able to elect a REAL conservative to replace YOUR sorry ass.”

Plus, now the Dems have no cover whatsoever. Whatever happens from here until they get tossed out of office is on their heads and they can’t hide from it.

]]> By: adricantfarm http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/the-liberals-and-the-linden-prize/#comment-3036 adricantfarm Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:35:50 +0000 http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/?p=270#comment-3036 boys; comfort me in this dark Specter moment. boys;

comfort me in this dark Specter moment.

]]> By: adricantfarm http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/the-liberals-and-the-linden-prize/#comment-3033 adricantfarm Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:49:42 +0000 http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/?p=270#comment-3033 Ummm.. Sigs?? HAHA When you are ready to be with the men, get their tools. http://www.adric.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/gbbay.jpg Ummm.. Sigs??

HAHA

When you are ready to be with the men, get their tools.

http://www.adric.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/gbbay.jpg

]]> By: Erbo http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/the-liberals-and-the-linden-prize/#comment-3032 Erbo Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:43:27 +0000 http://evansavenue.wordpress.com/?p=270#comment-3032 Prok: My original concept of a "conservative" project was something along the lines of Oleg Volk's <a href="http://www.a-human-right.com/" rel="nofollow">A Human Right</a> site, intended to educate that "self-defense is a human right" and that the most effective form of self-defense is, in fact, a gun. Perhaps Volk himself could be convinced to take part in such a project. Prok: My original concept of a “conservative” project was something along the lines of Oleg Volk’s A Human Right site, intended to educate that “self-defense is a human right” and that the most effective form of self-defense is, in fact, a gun. Perhaps Volk himself could be convinced to take part in such a project.

]]>